Could someone from the association go back and repair the old links that lead to nowhere. It took me 2 weeks to find this current log. I was certain the association was no longer active.
Fishing Log
Arch Modeler |
new york City |
Sunday April 23rd 6:58 am
Been years since I left the trout alone and tried the shad bite. Looking for the right spot from shore. Wish I could remember where I went as a teen. Tried Trenton but not in an ideal location. Looking forward to running into one off you veterans with some knowledge to pass on.
Dave D. |
Robbinsville |
Saturday April 22nd 2:41 pm
Most fish less than 3 pounds???? HMMMMMMM... Here is an article on the reintroduction of Hickory Shad into the Delaware River back in 2005. Please read: https://www.fishandboat.com/About-Us/Angler-and-Boater/AnglerBoater2005/MayJune/Documents/spec1hicks.pdf
Kurt Miller |
Northampton |
Saturday April 22nd 2:37 pm
Anthony.There is a place that may or may not be accessible any more. North of Smithfield there used to be a dirt road that branches off to the right. Used to be good places to fish and a few parking spots. Worth checking if you are in the area.
Anthony |
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Saturday April 22nd 12:59 pm
Thanks Dave, I used to fish that area south of Portland when 611 was open, I guess I could go into Jersey and take Rt 46 and fish that side. Thanks, definitely an option.
Dave D |
Robbinsville |
Saturday April 22nd 11:29 am
Anthony, King Cole pool on Rt 46 used to be good …. But that was 40 years ago. Not sure if (King Cole) ice cream stand is still there or not. I have not been up that way in over 25 years.
Anthony |
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Saturday April 22nd 9:18 am
Fished the Gap by the visitors center boat launch from shore, nothing. All the boaters went up to the Rt.80 bridge to fish, don’t know how they did. All other shore fishermen that I could see did nothing either, I talked to a few. I tried every color combinations I had with darts and spoons. I usually fish the Pa side but with 611 closed I can’t get to the spots I like, the fish tend to run that side better. Oh well, maybe I’ll try up by Smithfield beach, I don’t have a boat so I have to fish from shore. I drive over an hour to get to the Gap area so it’s disappointing when you don’t even get a bump. I know people don’t like to give up spots but is there any other areas to shore fish from near there ? They don’t have to be an exact location.
HAMMER4REEL |
Gap |
Saturday April 22nd 7:46 am
A lot of talk of lighter fish than normal .
Seems most of the fish being caught are 20-22” those fish are not going to be heavy shad .
Normal shad at 21” are 4 pounds
Takes a fish 24” or better to normally break 5 pounds .
As far as health of the shad , if a younger age class of fish is making for a solid run I would think these fish are healthier fish .
As it used to take much larger fish to get through the river system .
If these fish are still healthy after making the long runs on much less stored energy I wouldn’t think it would be a bad sign .
Would think it shows the improvement in water quality .
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ShadHarris |
The river |
Friday April 21st 9:12 pm
Good old time shad fishing this afternoon N of Bushkill S of Dingman’s. No spoons. No divers. No downriggers. Just 1/64 and 1/32 ounce hot pink and white darts with light weight ahead of them in 7’ of water. After wasting the morning at Worthington to scratch out 8 I pulled the boat and went North. Quit at an even 60 for the day (52 that spot) at 7pm left them biting. Good action but these are by far the smallest roe I have ever seen. Most don’t even make 3# and that was once unheard of. Most fish we got were roe. Landed two in net at once on a double dart rig. Hooked and landed a 6.6 lb channel cat - man I thought I had the winning shad at first!
RPS |
Greeley Pa. |
Friday April 21st 7:49 pm
Fished Zane Grey today 4:30 - 6:30 pm. hooked and landed 4. water temp.59 deg. 2row , 2 buck double dart rig 3 on the 1/32 1 on the 1/4.
joe M |
NEPA |
Friday April 21st 7:26 pm
Fished Narrowsburg for 1.5 hrs this evening..........No hits.......no fisherman either?
Chuck Mc |
Up north. |
Friday April 21st 6:16 pm
Only 3 today in about 3 hrs. They are here just not hitting.
Duke Smith |
Bethlehem |
Friday April 21st 5:18 pm
Fished easton to belvadere from shore with darts spoons crappie jigs not a bump and saw 0 caught either by other shore fishermen or boats .water is way to low and warm was wet wading today already !
Dave D |
Robbinsville |
Friday April 21st 1:10 pm
ShadHarris, Hmmmmmmm…. Has anybody taken a close look at the fish they are catching in the Delaware? Any chance they could be hickory shad? A few years back I caught a few at Fireman’s Island. (Not insinuating anything just thought that I might mention it).
ShadHarris |
The river |
Thursday April 20th 10:33 pm
30 netted today. Sounds great - but not really. Took 13 hours although late afternoon accounted for 17 of them. Nothing over 3.7 lbs. Historically small shad this season. Smallest I have seen in over 40 years.
RPS |
Greeley Pa. |
Thursday April 20th 9:06 pm
Fished Zane Grey from shore today 4 - 7 pm hooked 3 shad landed 1 water temp. 54 deg.
Rob Wright |
North of dingmans |
Thursday April 20th 8:00 pm
Had a good evening, fished from 2pm to 630pm. Nothing til 430. Boated 15.water temp 56, water low and clear, no debris or snot. Be out there tomorrow evening.
Dave D |
Robbinsville |
Wednesday April 19th 9:45 pm
Joseph, thanks for the info.
ShadHarris |
The river o |
Wednesday April 19th 8:41 pm
Gotta report the bad with the good honestly as I always do. Fished wading N of gap tonight and only landed two bucks the last one being a micro- buck of about 14”. Very slow. Days in row of falling temps will do that. Boat tomorrow for tournament and will head further south.
Dennis Scholl |
Hellertown |
Wednesday April 19th 2:07 pm
Boated 15 this morning in Upper Bucks County, lost 1. There were a LOT of fish moving through. Had a triple and somehow managed to net all three. Kept one fish for smoking. Most were bucks but a few small roes. Guys in a boat with a fish finder told me there were large schools moving through, which I found out without a fish finder. Flutterspoons and 1/16th oz. Dart with two #5 split shot. I don’t use downriggers. Fish again were smallish. The one exception was the 20-inch roe I kept.
Joseph C. |
Phoenixville & Princeton |
Wednesday April 19th 12:52 pm
Dave D, yes, that parking lot is still free and in good condition.
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Tuesday April 18th 11:47 pm
Great numbers from shore daily mid river ...terrific run!
Dave D |
Robbinsville, NJ |
Tuesday April 18th 5:52 pm
Joseph C, can you still park in the lot at the canal head where the fish ladder is? I haven’t been there in several years but I thought that was part of the Delaware Canal State Park?
Joseph C. |
Phoenixville, PA / Ewing, NJ |
Tuesday April 18th 7:20 am
I tried both sides of the Lehigh yesterday afternoon. Nothin'. I saw1 boat set up just above the train bridge. They caught 2 or 3 while I was watching for the 2 hours or so I was there but weren't doing that much better than I was. About that parking technology on Larry Holmes Drive - I might have read the directions wrong, but it sure looks like they won't let you pay for more than 45 minutes at a time. Unless I have that wrong, I will be staying the hell out of Easton util they make it somewhat more visitor friendly.
Rob Wright |
North of dingmans |
Monday April 17th 7:14 pm
What a difference a day makes. Only caught one in 3 hours of fishing.. water temp 60.5, wind excessive
Chuck mc |
Freeman tract |
Monday April 17th 6:51 pm
2 today freeman tract.
Charles mc |
Up north |
Monday April 17th 8:25 am
Only 4 today. 3 were very big roe 1 buck. All very healthy looking clean fish.
Joseph C. |
Phoenixville & Princeton |
Monday April 17th 8:22 am
Dave D, I have no real idea what kind of catfish they were. After looking at some pictures I would guess not. The fish I was catching were of a more uniform, chocolate brown color, I think. ...and kind of rounder. Sorry. I just don't fish freshwater that much outside the shad fishing season.
I'm going to make a pilgrimage up to the confluence of the Lehigh and Delaware later today. It's calling to me.
Under the Radar |
Piscataway |
Monday April 17th 6:48 am
One fish every 4.5 minutes?
Dave D |
Robbinsville |
Sunday April 16th 11:46 pm
Duff, that is a very accurate assessment based on my experience as well. I can also add that the majority of the larger stripers started showing up around 1997. The ten years following would yield more and much larger bass in the lower river.
Duff |
Lower River |
Sunday April 16th 11:11 pm
I've posted this before. I'm only passing on my experiences -
80s and 90s had good shad runs, A typical run below Easton started late March with the end of early run fish being caught. This varied slightly according to water temperature. I recall shivering my butt off fishing below Lambertville catching shad with 10 inch thick chunks of ice stacked behind me on the bank. Mid April was the main run, lots of shad were caught from Trenton to the Gap. Late April catches would vary, good days and poor days for a week or so. Then in May Loads of large roe came up mixed with hearing. My guess is a lot of these fish spawned in the lower river and were returned spawners.
Approximately 2006 to 2009 had poor runs. If I recall correctly, 2010 was the come back year. But; The large roes in Mays never returned. From what I read online, it appears to me that only people above Easton are saying that they have had good runs in the past 3 to 5 years.
Possibly the loss of the May return spawners is also the reason the smallmouth declined.
Rob Wright |
North of dingmans |
Sunday April 16th 10:25 pm
Trolling larger flutterspoons
It seems the shad are following a path in the river, 8 feet to 9 feet in depth. Everytime the spoon hit this path at that depth, a double
ShadHarris |
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Sunday April 16th 10:13 pm
Rob Wright - that’s amazing. Congrats. Not surprised by the action - just surprised by the method. Drifting spoons?
Rob Wright |
North of dingmans |
Sunday April 16th 8:04 pm
Fished 330 to 630 best day of my life. (Only been fishing for shad for 10 years) Boated over 40, fished two poles with flutterspoons. Water temp 61.6, no debris or snot yet, water clarity good. Almost every drift, a double. Looks like a banner year
RPS |
Greeley Pa. |
Sunday April 16th 7:43 pm
Fished Zane Grey today from shore 3:30 - 7 pm caught 6 shad water temp. was 61.8 deg.
Dave D |
Robbinsville |
Sunday April 16th 11:10 am
Joseph, any idea what type of catfish they were? About 20 years agp a watched a guy catch 4 in the cove at the Trenton Power plant that ere probably 20+ pounds. He had no idea what they were and though the we’re channel catties. Upon closer examination they were determined to be Flatheads! These are an invasive species that everything!
TeamEsox |
Easton |
Sunday April 16th 10:52 am
Caught one from shore before the rain. We need the River to come up about 2ft for these fish to spread out more for us shore guys. Hopefully the rain stained it up a bit.
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Sunday April 16th 10:45 am
Lit up during the storm last night. Non stop action for an hour
Under the Radar |
Piscataway |
Sunday April 16th 9:13 am
Fished north of Dingman's Saturday. Early but slow bite. Saw a few fish caught, shore fishermen caught a few. Boat fisherman caught a few. Nothing to write home about. Will be at it again during the week.
Joseph C. |
Phoenixville, PA / Ewing, NJ |
Sunday April 16th 8:57 am
I fished both Friday and Saturday mornings at the Schuylkill. All told I landed 12 shad, only the first one a Hickory. Not terrible for that fishery in my experience, but not as good as I had hoped. Saturday turned into a catfish fest for some reason. I've caught 1 or 2 per session there before, but I got disgusted after my 5th of the morning. It was very strange, and they kept getting bigger. The last one was in the 7 to 8 # range. Like hoping for Ferraris and ending up with back hoes. (All fish on a double dart rig.)
Dave D |
Robbinsville |
Saturday April 15th 10:56 pm
forgot to put my name see my post below @ 10:50 PM
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Saturday April 15th 10:50 pm
Dennis, agree that there needs to be more studies like the hydroacustics monitoring that NJ Fish and Wildlife used to do 20 years back. The arguments at that time was that the equipment was set up too late in the season to get an accurate assessment and missed all of the early runners that passed through in March. However - (At least in NJ) the Division lacks adequate resources and is grossly underfunded, so it is unlikely to happen. It is so bad that they rely on volunteers from Trout Unlimited chapters to help stock their hatchery raised trout! Disappointing as I pay over $15K in property taxes and I am still scratching my head as what it is I actually get in this State (?) For example, We used to have the Ken Lockwood Gorge (beautiful stretch if you are a fly fisherman) but unless you live in Highbridge you may as well forget about it as NJ refuses to fix the road along that stream so there is no longer adequate parking!….. and that was totally paid for by the sportsmen.
Dennis Scholl |
Hellertown |
Saturday April 15th 10:13 pm
Dave D, the three-fish limit goes back further than 2017 although I am not certain what year it was. It was the DRSFA that lobbied for the six-fish limit sometime in the 80s. No one on the DRSFA Board of Directors had an issue with lowering a “no limit” daily creel status to six fish. One of the factors that helped the six-fish limit become enacted was the change of Shad from just a fish to a recognized gamefish. Once it became a gamefish, a daily creel limit could be established. Back then Shad were a lot bigger on average, so six fish represented at least 15 pounds a day, which is plenty for anyone. Further lowering the daily limit to three was not that big of a deal because 1) three fish is still around 10 pounds a day, 2) most guys release their Shad because they refuse to eat them, and 3) people were beginning to realize the population was having difficulty because of increased commercial pressure, increased predation from a growing stripper population (as you have noted) and other predators. Not having state fishery departments conducting population surveys as they did in the past doesn’t help us gauge a given year’s population, which leads to guessing games and conjecture. This year, for instance, the fish are again small overall but there must be an awful lot of them in the river given some of the reports I read here. Also, we seem to have warmer weather earlier in the year and less snowfall in the Delaware watershed, which means the river warms earlier and the fish enter it sooner. A lot of them are upriver before we know it, and because the river temp. Is low 40s when they begin to move in, they’re not aggressive and people don’t catch them. But look what’s happening now. All of a sudden we have river temps in the mid 50s and the fish are going bonkers. And it’s only April 15. You’re never going to know what’s in the river unless PA, NJ, and NY re-implement data compilation through population survey studies. And if there are going to be decreases in daily creel limits such as there was this year from 3 to 2, at least get press releases out so the public knows what’s going on. There is a beautiful boat launch in Riegelsville, NJ with a large glass-encased bulletin board. But there is nothing on that board to indicate the current creel limit. C’mon, New Jersey, post fliers up and down the river so anglers know what’s going on. By the way, I thought this board was for communication of information and ideas, not for slinging mud at each other, without even giving names. Pretty childish and unnecessary.
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Saturday April 15th 9:26 pm
You know…. It is really a shame that we have throw stones at each other over the internet isn’t it? Kinda childish s don’t you think? Maybe we can be adults and stop the attacks and just agree to disagree (?]
Dave D |
Robbinsville |
Saturday April 15th 6:56 pm
One fact that is not being discussed here is striped bass preditation In 1991 they were declared a gamefish which prevented the commercial fishers from harvesting them. I can tell you from experience that that 10 years later the bass population exploded in the tidal river. What a lot of folks don’t know is there is a resident population of bass in the Delaware that never migrate back to the ocean. I used to fish the cove in the Trenton power plant for The End of October to The middle of April and landed many bass in the 40+ pound class. These fish have decimated the herring populations as well as the shad. In addition it is my opinion that this caused many of the commercial fisheries to overfish the shad in the early 90’s as we saw a sharp downturn in their population just a few years later. Now 32 years later the striper population is declining due to lack of forage fish! This is the mismanagement I am referring to. This is what happens when politics get in the way! The striped Regis should have been loosened to allow for additional harvest both on the surf and in the river to manage population overgrowth. This was thought when I took my hunter safety course back in 1982 - overpopulation of any species will lead to dessamation of the available food source, then the entire population is a risk! Problem is that this is not taught or discussed anymore.
Dave D |
robbissville |
Saturday April 15th 6:24 pm
If my memory serves me correctly the 6 fish limit goes back to the 80’s. It dropped to 3 fish around 6 years ago so I am guessing 2017.
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Saturday April 15th 5:37 pm
Rich; Anybody remember what year the 6 fish limit was instituted, what year the 3 fish limit likewise?
Dennis Scholl |
Hellertown |
Saturday April 15th 3:56 pm
So, Charles Furst, I take it from your post that you want he dams down. Certainly would benefit things environmentally. I just doubt it's ever going to happen, or at least in our lifetimes. I will continue to say that if the ladders are there, and they are the ONLY option right newt pass fish, then at least keep them maintained.
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Saturday April 15th 2:03 pm
Possibly genetics may be playing a role. Scale studies to assess fish age would be helpful. Maybe weighing in 9 pounders at Andys sport shop instead of releasing them to reproduce more large fish contributed....
ShadHarris |
The river |
Saturday April 15th 1:25 pm
Great morning in the boat with my son but if I started where I ended would have been epic. launched Worthington went right to where we crushed them Thursday afternoon. Went 2 of 3. Tied trolling - picked up 1. Tried another spot for the 4th move of morning. Scratched out another. Made one more move at 9am and man it paid big dividends. 2.5 hours wasted trying to get on them good. We went from 4 shad to 13 shad in 15 minutes! 3 doubles and a triple. Quit 11:30 at 33 landed for 40 hookups. (Yes I count if they are in netting range because that is best release possible - unless it’s a tournament money fish then I cry. Got best one of season so far at exactly 4.5#. Got off before the deluge of lightening rain and heavy hail hit just as I pulled into my driveway.