Hi. Can anyone tell me more about Powerpro braided fishing line. Never used it, don’t know it’s good or bad points. Would like to try it. I see @ShadHarris is using 5-lb. Powerpro braided.Is that the right ticket for Shad? Thanks.
Fishing Log
Dennis Scholl |
Hellertown |
Sunday April 30th 10:47 am
shadharris |
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Saturday April 29th 4:28 pm
sorry - post below should be 15 of 16 in 2.5 hours, not 3.5
ShadHarris |
The River |
Saturday April 29th 4:27 pm
Knowing all that rain would not stain or raise river today, I slept in to miss the worst of the rain and wind. Started wading N of water gap 11:30 and it was a shad every other cast for first 30 minutes landing 6, 5 were nice roe up to 4lbs - all on 1/32 ounce chartreuse green dart and UV green tail, 30 inches of 8# floro behind a 1/4 ounce in-line sinker attached to a 9' 6" G Loomis noodle road with a Pflueger President XT reel spooled with 5# Powerpro braid. The next hour landed 7 more now at 13 for 13 no bumps or missed hits. Hung in for one more hour quitting at 2pm ending up going 2 for 3 that last hour. So overall - 15 of 16 hookups and no other hits in 3.5 hours. Started out great but tapered out the more I fished. River crystal clear and not yet rising but tomorrow will be roiled up for sure. My hands and feet were frozen it was barely 49-50 degrees out and raining most of the time although not too hard, and water temp back down to 50-51... COLD but man what fish were there crushed it hard and very aggressive. Like I said no bumps every fish was hooked good.
Dave D |
Robbinsville |
Saturday April 29th 12:39 pm
WG, check out Joseph C’s post below regarding Hickory Shad in the Delaware River. Any chance some of the smaller sized fish are being misidentified by people? (Taking into consideration that I have seen anglers who don’t know the difference between a brook and a brow trout), this wouldn’t be out of the question if they did’t know what they are looking at. (????). Also, 15- 18 years after an effort by PA Fish Commission to reintroduce the species could we actually be seeing a return?
WG |
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Saturday April 29th 11:44 am
@ShadHarris-you are very correct that flatheads take a huge fill in adult shad. Below Conowingo the guys that keep them say there are 5-10 in each catfish they catch! Hickory and Avery can shad plus herring….they are eating machines, like tye cormorants that are now at above historic levels! The dam at Conowingo (or any dam) creates an ambush point for those ….now that Blue catfish have been introduced and are getting larger (I’ve seen 35+ pounders) and will top out over 100 pounds, they too will take their toll on the shad….not sure if they have made it to the Delaware yet, but they will unfortunately…ugh
WG |
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Saturday April 29th 11:39 am
@Dave D, I’m a geologist but not with USGS…good memory though! The river temp lots of all eastern rivers would be great to have….I’ll look into finding it and maybe present to the DRSFA at a meeting someday….good idea!
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Friday April 28th 8:17 pm
The fish are small, were larger in March and the past few years have been larger again in May. I would not be surprised if that happens again this year, again the numbers are fine.
Joseph C. |
Phoenixville, PA / Ewing, NJ |
Friday April 28th 8:11 pm
I had only 30 minutes to fish yesterday morning before an 0900 appointment in Princeton. Landed a River Herring on my first cast. A Hickory on my second. That was it. Double dart rig.
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Friday April 28th 7:25 pm
Size????
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Friday April 28th 6:35 pm
5/6 today wading mid river in 2 hours. Missed a few other hits possibly due to frozen hands. There are plenty of fish in the river as documented by the Lambertville nets
Rich |
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Friday April 28th 6:05 pm
The "good" news is; The commercial fisheries landings in both NJ and DE were reduced by 33% beginning for the 2023 season. Presently, they are operating under landings cap: 7,772-pounds for DE watermen and 17,251-pounds for NJ watermen.
ShadHarris |
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Friday April 28th 10:54 am
Delaware river American shad limit is now 2 shad effective immediately
https://dep.nj.gov/njfw/news-2023-04-27-recreational-creel-limit-for-american-shad-on-the-delaware-river-has-been-reduced/
Under the Radar |
Piscataway |
Friday April 28th 8:18 am
Fished Milford Thursday. Only one other boat there. Only on fish between the both of us. There are fish there but had lockjaw. 52 degree water may have something to do with it. Gonna be a while before I get out again due to weather forecast!
Rob Wright |
North of dingmans |
Thursday April 27th 10:10 pm
Fished from 4 to 7. Boated 5, water temp 52.5, stained and still up from from last week. Little debris. Air and water temperatures probably slowing the bite
Chuck Mc |
Up north. |
Thursday April 27th 5:44 pm
Up north managed 5 today in 3 hrs. Water still cold up here.
ShadHarris |
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Thursday April 27th 9:48 am
WG is spot on with reasons for no retuning shad for a second or even 3rd spawn as we used to get in the 80’s. The one predator he left out which I feel needs mention is the introduction of the flathead catfish. Giant shad eating machines. Spoke to a flathead guide recently and yeah when he cuts one open they are loaded with shad and smallmouths among other fish. I believe there is a correlation between their expansion and reduction of returning shad.
RCN |
Sandyston |
Thursday April 27th 6:53 am
Just FYI, the ASMFC is sugesting to NJ and other states to lower the daily shad bag limit from 3 to 2.
RCN |
Sandyston |
Thursday April 27th 6:50 am
Just FYI, the ASMFC is sugesting to NJ and other states to lower the daily shad bag limit from 3 to 2.
Shadrt |
Glenside |
Wednesday April 26th 6:52 pm
The exact number was 114 in the past 2 nights!
Shadrt |
Glenside |
Wednesday April 26th 6:45 pm
I got the info from Steve. I communicate with him daily!
Dave D |
Robbinsville |
Wednesday April 26th 6:45 pm
Correction- Steve Meserve
Dave D |
Robbinsville |
Wednesday April 26th 6:41 pm
Steve Reserve would be a more reliable source, so it would be great to get a report from him.
Shadrt |
Glenside |
Wednesday April 26th 7:35 am
They got almost 150 Shad in the net at Lambertville the past 2 nights. There are plenty of fish around!
Dave D |
Robbinsville |
Tuesday April 25th 10:27 pm
WG: Yes global warming could be a factor. If I remember correctly don’t you (or didn’t you) work for USGS? If so what do the historical trends in water Temp look like for the months following the spawn over the past 15 to 20 years? Does the delt T correspond to the temps in the southern rivers that support return spawners? (P. S. Sorry about my typos in the post shown below).
Dave F |
Robbinsvillr |
Tuesday April 25th 10:17 pm
Zero boats under Lambertville/New Hope bridge yesterday afternoon/evening. Zero fisherman at Fireman’s eddy, water temp was 62F and just slightly stained. Historically the last week in April should be just the peak of the mythical “main run” in this section of the river. Pretty much tells the story! Seems like the vast majority of the fish were early runners as only reported catches are far north.
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Tuesday April 25th 9:55 pm
3 hours, no hits today. Only saw 3 caught by 3 different anglers. Probably missed mine due to enforced rest periods LOL? I did have a "first" experience in my 60 seasons. A moderate upriver wind was suddenly countered by a brisk downriver wind burst. This created a waterspout which danced from the Pa side to midriver before dissipating. It wasn't very tall but was wide and lasted 30 - 40 seconds. Made the trip worthwhile.
RPS |
Greeley Pa. |
Tuesday April 25th 7:54 pm
Fished Zane Grey from shore today 3:30 - 6 pm. hooked and landed 4 shad water temp. was 53 deg. That one deg. drop seems to have shut the bite down from last night
Charles mcquaid |
Up north |
Tuesday April 25th 4:38 pm
Caught 2 today. Water was up and moving fast. Water was stained. Felt more like October on the river today then April.
WG |
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Tuesday April 25th 1:23 pm
@Dennis Scholl and Dave D. The reason there are no large returning females is because something is happening to them after they spawn. That “something” is comprised of many factors, but the biggest one is simply that a slight increase in average temperature combined with an unbelievably high predation rate by the overpopulated and ridiculously overprotected Striper population prevents almost all returning shad to survive. Looking at data from the Susquehanna (where numbers of shad are at all time lows) the Delaware river (on here, Facebook and Bi state tournament results ) has almost no repeat spawning size shad and the Connecticut river (who’s shad tournament also reflects very small shad) there simply aren’t any shad surviving to repeat spawn. However, this doesn’t mean the population is “in trouble”….south of the Chesapeake Bay was historically where NO shad survived to spawn again because late spring temperatures were too warm to allow shad survival. That “line of repeat spawning shad” has moved north of the Connecticut River, probably Maine or farther north! This line has probably moved constantly over the course of Shad’s migratory history, with it moving south when climate cools (remember there were ice sheets over North America only 10,000 years ago!) and moving north when the climate warms…we’re just seeing this line move north in our lifetime!
Riverwolf |
Coopersburg |
Tuesday April 25th 12:34 pm
Arch.....google drsfa and it will direct you there...
RPS |
Greeley Pa. |
Monday April 24th 8:11 pm
Fished Zane Grey from shore today 3:30 - 6:30 pm. hooked 22 landed 19 shad on double dart rig . water temp. was 54.5 deg.
joe M |
NEPA |
Monday April 24th 6:04 pm
ionly tried once and struck out.......but has anyone else fished up north yet? I fish narrowsburg for the past 50 years and its just an easy spot to get to and fish. Anyone think thyere up that far yet?
ShadHarris |
The river |
Monday April 24th 11:36 am
129 in 4 days tournament from Gap area to North of Bushkill and river fished well until 6pm last night then it got too dirty just perfect boat conditions overall. 30, 60, 14, and 25. After finding big body of fish N of Bushkill Thursday afternoon - kept going back to the same well but Saturday was exact opposite scraped every inch of a 2 mile stretch and could not get on them. Sunday morning back down by gap for a little wading and it was even slower but then went back North to the hot spot with boat and started getting them good but it was clear the shad were changing their swim lanes as the river was rapidly rising. Kept having to slide over to stay on the edge of the main current seam made all the difference until it just got too dirty by 6pm. As I continueto say - overall the shad run is still in a down cycle. Each year showing less numbers and zero return spawners. The lack of fish in the Worthington stretch the entire tournament shows a huge hole in the run. That stretch was red hot a week prior and I probably caught the back end of that body of fish Thursday N of gap when we got 60. I do think there are early runners and a main run that usually holds bigger roe. In a good shad run - the gap between is not usually this pronounced. 2018 and prior for many years these dates showed huge volumes of shad in the areas I speak of. There was no drop off. Last year - never really had a “great” epic day until May 15th in a good Shore morning session - a shad every other cast.
Joseph C. |
Phoenixville & Princeton |
Monday April 24th 8:32 am
I fished the Schuylkill last Saturday morning for 1.5 hours. Landed 5 nice size American shad on the double dart rig. No catfish this trip. I think this river's almost done. It warms up to spawning temps pretty quickly and I don't like to interrupt the party.
Rich |
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Sunday April 23rd 10:37 pm
Few shad caught near gap while I was there. 2 hours 1/1 on dart. Saw one other caught. 1/2 on fly near dark and spawning observed. Not very many pods spawning, however.
Chuck Mc |
Up north. |
Sunday April 23rd 4:45 pm
5 today missed a few. Water stained a bit and up somewhat from the rain we had. Water temp still not where it should be up here to get them going good.
Anthony |
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Sunday April 23rd 2:21 pm
Thanks Kurt, I’ll give it a try.
Chief |
Dingmans |
Sunday April 23rd 11:32 am
How is the water clarity today with all the rain?
Arch Modeler |
new york City |
Sunday April 23rd 7:02 am
Could someone from the association go back and repair the old links that lead to nowhere. It took me 2 weeks to find this current log. I was certain the association was no longer active.
Arch Modeler |
new york City |
Sunday April 23rd 6:58 am
Been years since I left the trout alone and tried the shad bite. Looking for the right spot from shore. Wish I could remember where I went as a teen. Tried Trenton but not in an ideal location. Looking forward to running into one off you veterans with some knowledge to pass on.
Dave D. |
Robbinsville |
Saturday April 22nd 2:41 pm
Most fish less than 3 pounds???? HMMMMMMM... Here is an article on the reintroduction of Hickory Shad into the Delaware River back in 2005. Please read: https://www.fishandboat.com/About-Us/Angler-and-Boater/AnglerBoater2005/MayJune/Documents/spec1hicks.pdf
Kurt Miller |
Northampton |
Saturday April 22nd 2:37 pm
Anthony.There is a place that may or may not be accessible any more. North of Smithfield there used to be a dirt road that branches off to the right. Used to be good places to fish and a few parking spots. Worth checking if you are in the area.
Anthony |
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Saturday April 22nd 12:59 pm
Thanks Dave, I used to fish that area south of Portland when 611 was open, I guess I could go into Jersey and take Rt 46 and fish that side. Thanks, definitely an option.
Dave D |
Robbinsville |
Saturday April 22nd 11:29 am
Anthony, King Cole pool on Rt 46 used to be good …. But that was 40 years ago. Not sure if (King Cole) ice cream stand is still there or not. I have not been up that way in over 25 years.
Anthony |
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Saturday April 22nd 9:18 am
Fished the Gap by the visitors center boat launch from shore, nothing. All the boaters went up to the Rt.80 bridge to fish, don’t know how they did. All other shore fishermen that I could see did nothing either, I talked to a few. I tried every color combinations I had with darts and spoons. I usually fish the Pa side but with 611 closed I can’t get to the spots I like, the fish tend to run that side better. Oh well, maybe I’ll try up by Smithfield beach, I don’t have a boat so I have to fish from shore. I drive over an hour to get to the Gap area so it’s disappointing when you don’t even get a bump. I know people don’t like to give up spots but is there any other areas to shore fish from near there ? They don’t have to be an exact location.
HAMMER4REEL |
Gap |
Saturday April 22nd 7:46 am
A lot of talk of lighter fish than normal .
Seems most of the fish being caught are 20-22” those fish are not going to be heavy shad .
Normal shad at 21” are 4 pounds
Takes a fish 24” or better to normally break 5 pounds .
As far as health of the shad , if a younger age class of fish is making for a solid run I would think these fish are healthier fish .
As it used to take much larger fish to get through the river system .
If these fish are still healthy after making the long runs on much less stored energy I wouldn’t think it would be a bad sign .
Would think it shows the improvement in water quality .
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ShadHarris |
The river |
Friday April 21st 9:12 pm
Good old time shad fishing this afternoon N of Bushkill S of Dingman’s. No spoons. No divers. No downriggers. Just 1/64 and 1/32 ounce hot pink and white darts with light weight ahead of them in 7’ of water. After wasting the morning at Worthington to scratch out 8 I pulled the boat and went North. Quit at an even 60 for the day (52 that spot) at 7pm left them biting. Good action but these are by far the smallest roe I have ever seen. Most don’t even make 3# and that was once unheard of. Most fish we got were roe. Landed two in net at once on a double dart rig. Hooked and landed a 6.6 lb channel cat - man I thought I had the winning shad at first!
RPS |
Greeley Pa. |
Friday April 21st 7:49 pm
Fished Zane Grey today 4:30 - 6:30 pm. hooked and landed 4. water temp.59 deg. 2row , 2 buck double dart rig 3 on the 1/32 1 on the 1/4.
joe M |
NEPA |
Friday April 21st 7:26 pm
Fished Narrowsburg for 1.5 hrs this evening..........No hits.......no fisherman either?
Chuck Mc |
Up north. |
Friday April 21st 6:16 pm
Only 3 today in about 3 hrs. They are here just not hitting.