ShadHarris, can you explain your thoughts on why you feel we are in a cyclical decline when juvenile numbers have been high the past few years? Just trying to keep this discussion going during a dull week.
Fishing Log
Dennis J Scholl |
Hellertown |
Tuesday April 14th 8:47 pm
Mike Dudas |
Piscataway |
Tuesday April 14th 1:41 pm
I'm one of those old timers too. Been in the outdoors for a long time. There is one think I can tell you is it's Mother Nature. It isn't the same day to day or year to year. That you can take that to the bank! Let's wait for the floods to subside and get fishing. Then we will be able to know what kind of year this is!
Rob Wright |
Montague |
Tuesday April 14th 1:41 pm
Shad Harris. I respect your knowledge and experience. However I have to disagree with your predictions of the run. I usually fish dingmans but the park closed the ramp. Every May my partner and me would catch 50 - 60 per day. April would be half that number. This year I fished Milford, not familiar with hotspots. I did very well in short trips. I caught shad when other boats were skunked. As you know each person has his own technique for success. Different times of the year require different techniques. I still think it's too early to predict and come June I will be bragging or apologizing to the blog. Appreciate your thoughts.
Phil M. |
Sandyston |
Tuesday April 14th 11:15 am
Between the rock-snot last year, the hovering just below 48 degrees for an extended period lately, and now the semi-flood conditions, mother nature has sure thrown us some curve balls. Very hard to pick up a pattern when these jerky things happen. Where I like to fish, the water is up 6 feet over normal and still skyrocketing. The old-timers (wait a minute, that's me) used to say the great runs come in 3-year spans, with a tapering up before and a tapering down afterwards. Not sure about that. My best days have always had one thing in common: a clear sky. Clouds and/or rain seem to put the wise guys on edge. When the water comes down to 3 feet above normal, I think the run may finally show its hand.
ShadHarris |
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Tuesday April 14th 9:44 am
Dennis - thanks for your input, and you are absolutely correct on the conditions be a contributing factor last. However - I had plenty of days especially from shoreline in classic high water spots where conditions were perfect. I would hit periods of "fish every cast and no worse than hit every 3 casts" and land like 6 in a row, then go well over an hour without a bump often 2 hours. Then hit another pod. In 2014, 15, 16, 17, in similar conditions, similar times of year - the runs were much more "filled in" and consistent April/May. Bottom line with last season, when fish were there - they hit. When they were not - can't catch what isn't there. As with Alex - I base my observations not just by what I see, but by my vast network of contacts up and down the river, plus all the various had blogs. This one, what used to be woofish, and two FB groups. Of course there are outliers and even this year have seen a few stellar "legitimate" reports but I try to take a more holistic view of the run in it's entirety while factoring in conditions. If i go out this weekend and have one of those classic epic days, it won't change my view on the state of the run and that we are in a classic cyclical decline - it just means I finally hit it right this season. You have an 11 year jump on me for shad fishing, I been at it since 1974. One thing that is not debatable however - we do not get the returning spawners we did back in the 80s and early to mid 90s. If we did that would significantly boost the numbers as well. If I had my way - those of you think the run is as good as ever and this will be a great run in terms of numbers, would be CORRECT and Alex and I would be wrong. I would rather be dead wrong and have some great fishing ahead. I hope YOU are correct.
Joseph C. |
Phoenixvlle / Princeton |
Tuesday April 14th 7:54 am
+ 31,000 cfs flow at Trenton. Whoowhee! ...and it's still rising. I don't expect much shad fishing to be happening until the weekend, maybe. The good news was that most of that rain was well over 55F.
Dennis J Scholl |
Hellertown |
Monday April 13th 10:32 pm
I don't know how anyone can consider last year's run - the 2019 run - as part of a downside pattern. Fishing was abysmal last year because the river was consistently unfishable throughout the season. 2019 was an abnormality that shouldn't be considered in any study pattern because it was virtually impossible to collect data, i.e, the number of fish caught. I also think there is some jumping of the gun already this year. It's still early, not quite the middle of April. Give the river time to warm up adequately. As it is, and if some of the catch numbers in this log are not exaggerations, there already are a lot of fish in the river. I go back a long way with this sport, to 1963 when I caught my first shad. I've experienced many seasons when the shad population actually was low. Personally, I believe the population is improving each year, not decreasing. It's too bad that PA and NJ have dropped their shad studies. It's also too bad the fish ladders at Easton and Glendon aren't cleaned properly before the start of each season. If they were, you'd find more fish climbing those two ladders.
Duff |
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Monday April 13th 9:06 pm
Didn't want to spoil the party. But now that the topic has been brought up - I too feel we are on the down side of the cycle. The last two years were no so great. If I am correct, the last down cycle was 2006->2009. 2010 was the great come back year. Hope I'm still around for the next one.
ShadHarris |
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Monday April 13th 8:57 am
just got a reminder on "this date" April 13, on my FB account... 2014 - first time I ever took boat to Easton/Phillipsburg (for the longest time - a "north of Bushkill" shadder. Netted 35 out of 45 hookups in 3.5 hours all on darts that afternoon. The fishing was that good, I just showed up, said "hi" to Captain Dave and Rusty, and they said - "you could try over there", so I did and just anchored 75 yards below them. So although it's "early" still in the 2020 season - not too early to see that sort of action in that area but I don't think anyone has yet. Tony I know you had a few good days this year, some of your reports may be among the best. But the overall volume of fish and reports from Yardley to way North do not match what we were seeing 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017... There is wisdom in what Alex said.
Rusty Balls |
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Monday April 13th 8:21 am
just an fyi....all people in boats under 16 feet need to be wearing life jackets till may 1st..cold water rule for PA
Tony |
Rieglesville |
Monday April 13th 7:37 am
Fished Riegelsville yesterday landed 18 of 23. According to my fish finder a ton of fish are moving up the river. It’s a narrow corridor,if your not on them you aren’t going to catch many. I can swing boat side to side with motor and go from a steady run of fish to nothing. If you are not marking or catching fish move over a little. The higher water should spread them out more. When water is low they stick to a narrow path along channel.
ShadHarris |
Gap area |
Monday April 13th 7:20 am
Fished hard from shore yesterday casting non stop for 2.5 hours. Alternating between green darts and several spoon colors. Water was 46 and rising - not a single bump. Saw 5 boats working hard below me - not a fish from what I saw. 2 other guys from shore by my not a bump except one guy landed a small rare hickory as I was leaving. It is what it is. The run will be what it is. Alex follows the fish from the time they leave the bay in February way south well into late May. We are in a down cycle - yes it is still early but the numbers in lower river are not what they should be.
RUSTY BALLS |
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Monday April 13th 6:52 am
FISHED EASTON YESTERDAY ONE AND DONE...THE RIVER IS GONNA BE SHOT TILL AT LEAST THE WEEKEND WITH ALL THE RAIN COMING...LOOK AT THE GRAPH..LOL
Duke |
Bethlehem |
Sunday April 12th 8:59 am
I have to agree with Rob also.i have been at this for 45 years and the best fishing is always in May.i fish and catch shad until July 4th in the river above narrowsburg to the junction pool.it seems lately everyone is done after the contest before the fishing really heats up .
Mike Dudas |
Piscataway |
Sunday April 12th 8:28 am
Been doing this since the hay days and I remember an older gentleman telling me, "When the rhodies are in bloom, that's when you are gonna catch em". I agree with Rob, still a little early. Patience!
Rob Wright |
Montague |
Sunday April 12th 8:21 am
Capt alex I have to RESPECTFULLY disagree with your 2020 assessment of the run
It's only the first week of April. There are many weeks of good fishing to come. Last year I would catch 50-60 shad a day in may. We also caught that many in the first week of June north of the gap. I pray that I am right but will only know when Fathers day is here. Good luck and I love your perseverance.
Mike Dudas |
Piscataway |
Sunday April 12th 7:55 am
fished Milford yesterday morning. Was the only boat on the river. Wish I could say I crushed em but only one to the boat and a couple of halfhearted bumps.
Joseph C. |
Phoenixville / Princeton |
Sunday April 12th 6:53 am
Capt. Alex, thanks for what I took as a "suck it up" reminder. Ideal conditions and fish lining up to take our offerings are the exceptions and waiting for them at home won't ever catch a fish. I'm going to head for the river this morning with a buddy to see if we can persuade any fish to come play with us. If I catch a beauty like your 5lb'er I will happily try to figure out how to post the picture. Cheers to you and to all on this fine Easter morning.
Capt. Alex Craig |
Hatteras, NC & Green Lane, PA |
Sunday April 12th 4:14 am
Greetings all! I'm going to make an exception this year and put up a 2nd report to dispel a couple of misconceptions. If you know what you are doing, you can catch in falling temps as long as the temp is 39 degrees or above. Yesterday (4-11-2020), my buddy Minda & I hit the river at day break in less than ideal conditions: the guides were icing for the first 30 minutes of the day; the wind which was supposed to be out of the NW 10-15 MPH were out of the WSW & SW gusting to 25 MPH (although it did come & go) and we manged to hook 15 and land 8 to include the 5 lb 1 ounce roe in the attached pic. We fished north of the Gap and when I fish from a boat, I'm fishing the same way I fish from shore when I can't fish from shore; slinging darts and waving wet flies over them with a fly rod.
This years' run is worse than last years' and this day was about the average I've seen for the 25 Delaware River shad trips I have now done. Those of you waiting for the main rain to start are probably going to be disappointed. It has already started and with the possible exception of being in the right place at the right time doing the right thing on rare occasion, you are going to have to work for them. I have yet to see a "fish a cast day" this year. During the early run last year we had 2 or 3 hot days. At least the early run last year was OK. The main run stank and unfortunately I don't see that it will be any better this year. My buddy Dennis & I managed to scrape together 20+ fish each on only 1 day last year in May north of the Gap. And, as some of you well know, Dennis may be the best dart fisherman on the river. It is what it is this year!
Team Toothy |
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Saturday April 11th 5:44 pm
See post below-
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Saturday April 11th 5:43 pm
SGAD epfr was shut down back in the fall. The guy that ran it from the west coast gave it up from what I heard. I was a member there for many years. Sucks since it was our best local scene report board but it was dying off for a few years anyway after they purged a bunch of archived posts.
Duke |
Bethlehem |
Saturday April 11th 10:00 am
River came up and is cold lots of debris.fished easton for 3 hours not a bump.my advice is to go trout fishing which has been very good.we need some warmer weather to get the temp up still very early.
Duff |
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Saturday April 11th 9:49 am
Lot of rain on the way. Should help out waders for the main run.
She Got A Donkey |
Bucks County |
Saturday April 11th 7:55 am
Does anyone here have any idea what happened the EPFR.net? The fishing forum for eastern PA? It just vanished without a trace one day in the blink of an eye with no warning.
Jason |
Easton |
Saturday April 11th 3:04 am
I want to believe it’s early in the season and the water has been too cold to really have a strong bite even if there are fish throughout the river. The warmer weather will looks better for fishing in the next couple weeks, right on schedule.
The DRSFA vets on here should continue to help the beginners by giving more tips, locations, and suggestions. Introducing new people to the Delaware is key for Shad conservation. If people go out fishing and strike out, they quickly turn their back on the DR. C19 is not helping.
Fishermamfrank |
Bucks County |
Friday April 10th 7:06 pm
All the ramps including Lambertville was in NJ were closed as of Wednesday Fireman’s Eddy ,Bulls Island & Byran & Kingswood R closed Upper Black Eddy ramp in PA is open . As of Thursday Trenton was still open
Rich |
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Friday April 10th 4:39 pm
Fishery may be put on hold for a few days. A much colder slug of water is coming down from NY. Mid 40s today and another cold night tonight will probably lower it more. Not that they cannot be caught at those temps, in the right circumstances, but as Bill Gordon has often pointed out many times, falling temps tends to give them lockjaw.
Joseph C. |
Phoenixvlle / Princeton |
Friday April 10th 3:33 pm
Jeff Zeleny, sorry, I hadn't read down the posts far enough. I think the whole NJ river along the canal and paths is state park property and therefore closed. The Fireman's Eddy bridge is blocked off at 29.
Joseph C. |
Phoenixvlle / Princeton |
Friday April 10th 3:27 pm
Stevunlock, this is a site for shad fishing info. Stop putting up that nonsense or somebody might mistake you for an A##hole .
Joseph C. |
Phoenixvlle / Princeton |
Friday April 10th 3:23 pm
"Any word on the ramp in Lambertville??"......I tried to drive in behind the hotel to get to the sewage treatment plant yesterday. No deal! There was an office in a squad car stationed there to tell people like me that the whole area is state property and that it is a NO GO area. It looked like you might be able to wade out on the sand bar right behind the hotel. I have never tried that spot, but it at least looked like it might be accessible / fishable. I could see guys fishing the PA side in a few different stretches as I drove south from Lambertville along the NJ 29.
She got a Donkey |
Bucks County |
Friday April 10th 12:18 pm
Does anyone here have any idea what happened the EPRF.net? The fishing forum for eastern PA?
It just vanished without a trace one day in the blink of an eye with no warning.
Take me fishing |
Bucks county |
Friday April 10th 8:58 am
Any word on the ramp in Lambertville??
Rob Wright |
Montague |
Thursday April 9th 2:36 pm
This is the phone number to the DWG park service. (570) 223-3499. People can call and find when Dingman's ramp will be open.
Jeff Zeleny |
Quakertown |
Thursday April 9th 2:30 pm
Does anyone know? Is Firemans Eddy boat ramp in NJ open?
WG |
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Thursday April 9th 12:42 pm
@Jack Harris——- this run looks to be a very very strong run in terms of numbers and beget sized shad!! The late running American shad are in the lower Susquehanna River in good numbers last few days, so they should be hitting the lower Delaware by now, right on time... the early runners were in early and also in big numbers, the water gap area has been great! From March 28-April 6, a friend boat fishing was routinely landing 20-50 each day fishing 5-8 hours. That school is well upstream by now, it’s my opinion that there is always a “lull” between the early and late shad, where fewer and smaller schools push upriver, until water temps warm to lower to mid 50s in the tidal section and then they push upriver
Smitty |
Worthington |
Thursday April 9th 10:24 am
Any update on if the road up through Worthington has been opened back up since it was closed due to littering hikers?
Joseph C. |
Phoenixvlle / Princeton |
Thursday April 9th 10:10 am
FYI, Fireman's Eddy access is closed.
Kyle |
Pen Argyl |
Thursday April 9th 7:51 am
Tournament cancelled!!
rusty balls |
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Thursday April 9th 7:48 am
fished Easton on wed...caught 21..nice conditions..beautiful day to be on the water..cal me for your tackle needs...rusty balls tackle..484-239-4723
ShadHarris |
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Wednesday April 8th 10:53 pm
Rob Wright - that is encouraging, that means the early runners got way north and it is not always the case that conditions are this ideal to catch them. Last few years I was not seeing any good reports that far north in April or May. Great report! I generally fish a bit south of Dingmans but not by much....
Rob Wright |
Montague |
Wednesday April 8th 10:35 pm
Fished south of port jervis from 4pm to 7pm. Landed 18, lost several more. Conditions ideal for April. I think this year will be a banner run. Also everyone should call DWGPark service and demand Dingman ramp be opened
ShadHarris |
a bit north of water gap |
Wednesday April 8th 9:51 pm
landed 4 of 7 from shore in 2.5 hours. 2 were roe, a 4# and a 5#. Slight improvement over last session Monday night with only 2 of 3 landed. Just perfect conditions in terms of clarity, level, current, and temps (air and water). Not feeling a strong run this year based on my vast network of contacts up and down the river and many starting way south as early as February. Not seeing any indications of a even a good run - in fact, I predict it will be worse than last year. 2017 was peak, it's on the down cycle as shad tend to do. (my personal observations - I am sure someone will disagree and that is fine)
She got a horse |
Riegelsville |
Wednesday April 8th 5:29 pm
Lambertville is in New Jersey, Tom Wolf is governor of PA...too funny!! Now people, keep in mind, this is a pandemic and if you and your friends want to fish next season, be patriotic. Do your part!!
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Wednesday April 8th 3:59 pm
Lambertville ramp is closed thank you Governor Wolf I guess he’s not a fisherman
Patrick M |
Pa boat ramps |
Wednesday April 8th 3:50 pm
Does anyone know if the pa boat ramps are open like upper black eddy
Rather than enforcement and figuring out a long term solution. Mr murfy took the lazy approach and closed all the state parks
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Wednesday April 8th 3:24 pm
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JohnnyB |
Oreland |
Wednesday April 8th 2:57 pm
Duff! Check your Facebook it’s Johnny B
Duff |
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Wednesday April 8th 2:13 pm
Email I received said Maybe May.
ShadHarris |
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Wednesday April 8th 1:34 pm
Is Lewis netting Lambertville this year? Used to report on here I thought....
Ed Nussbeutel |
Reading |
Wednesday April 8th 12:09 pm
Since PA has opened fishing would appreciate it if someone could provide me with a couple of spots to fish for shad from shore near Easton. Thanks